Welcome to podcast number 20… How time flies when they’re good conversations are to be had. On this episode, I was joined by two of Digital Moments educators/facilitators, Mike “life debugger” Deutsch & Matthew Griffin. Digital Moment, which oversees Kids Code Jeunesse, is a non-profit organization founded in 2013 to help support programming in education. They offer a wide range of workshops, professional development and camps that get students  and educators digital game on! It was great to chat with these two, as we explored many different ideas about programming in a school context and it’s importance for an unknown future. If you are interested in getting them to come to your class or join an online webinar check them out at https://kidscodejeunesse.org/ or https://digitalmoment.org/